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Women in medicine are often undervalued and taken less seriously than their male counterparts. They’re also made to feel less safe at work, and encounter pushback when they make a complaint.
This week’s guest is Professor Dame Jane Dacre, and the episode is recorded in partnership with the Physician Mums Facebook Group (PMGUK). In her discussion with Rachel, Dame Jane lays out what needs to change at structural and interpersonal levels.
She invites members of the industry to shine a light on inappropriate behaviour and develop a zero-tolerance approach towards sexism and misconduct. She also describes ways in which leadership courses, mentoring, and resources can be provided to empower women to advance in their careers. And she encourages men and women to be allies, speak up against inequality, and support each other in challenging situations.
This discussion follows up on the 2020 report into the gender pay gap chaired by Dame Jane, and while progress is happening, women are still undervalued and face barriers to success. But by raising awareness about the gaps in pay and authority, we can create an environment where everyone is valued and has equal opportunities to thrive.
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More episodes of You Are Not a Frog:
- How to Be a Professional Woman – Episode 41 with Dame Jane Dacre
- The Glass Slipper and Other Challenges for Women in Medicine – Episode 158, with Professor Chloe Orkin and Dr Nuthana Bhayankaram
- How to Be a (Happy) Working Parent – Episode 121 with Corrina Gordon Barnes
About the guests
Professor Dame Jane Dacre is an Emeritus Professor of Medical Education at UCL. She supports women in the medical workplace, and is actively involved in addressing the gender pay gap in medicine. She works with organisations like the Department of Health, the NHS, and the British Medical Association to narrow the gap, and runs a course to help future women leaders develop their skills.
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Reasons to listen
- To learn about the efforts being made to address the gender pay gap in medicine and the progress that has been made so far
- To understand the concept of the authority gap and its impact on women in various fields
- To gain insights into the importance of supporting and empowering women in the workplace and taking collective action to challenge cultural norms and inequalities
Episode highlights
Follow-up on the gender pay gap report
Addressing sexual misconduct in medicine
Expectations of women in medicine
The authority gap
Finding allies
Systemic failures leading to women not being heard
Everyday misconduct
Jane’s story
The benefits of a non-linear career
The importance of authenticity and kindness
Sponsorship over mentoring
Maternal guilt
A letter to Jane’s younger self
Episode transcript
[00:00:00] Rachel: If you are a woman in medicine, you’ve probably dealt with your own fair share of sexism. Whether it’s unfair expectations placed on you or a colleague’s inappropriate behavior that’s gone unchecked. [00:00:11] In 2020, our guest professor Dame Jane Daker, chaired a report into the gap in pay between men and women. Three years on from that report, what if anything’s actually changed? Are institutions implementing the recommendations the report made, or is it still business as usual and pay aside, why is it that so many women are taken less seriously in medical fields than men?…
